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This gets interesting.

Having the useless information from the Public Information Officer, I explored ways and means to get the FULL information from .

It appears that there is a huge lobby to keep the definition of as 256 kbps which can be “offered” at an attractive “price”. Anything over and above that is chargeable at a higher price. The companies incur a fixed price to extend the wire from the exchange to your premises. However, after that, we have no clue as to how a company, for example, justifies it’s monthly costs to service me as a customer. In the recent price fall, on what basis, the price was reduced? On what basis, the earlier price point was maintained?

The PIO has not specifically mentioned about the fair usage policy. Under no circumstances, does this fair usage policy apply, nor it is mandated, nor it is ‘legal’. I have no clue about whether TRAI is aware of such a thing but in any case, it needs a follow up and TRAI should be forced to stop the unfortunate usage.

In the long term, the license of these firms needs to be made public; how these private companies acquire them, how they charge and what are their revenue sources. Their accounts need to be audited and everything should be in the public domain.

I am only interested in a bare bones 2 Mbps connection and any other value added service maybe charged for. That is a legitimate right to make a profit. However, charging exorbitant rates for something as simple as a plain vanilla is unfair and the customer needs to be put in the loop.

I am reproducing the mail to the in full. The best part is that I don’t have to pay the requisite fees and I am sure that the PIO would be put under the mat. TRAI should exert itself as an authority and not a hand maid of the various lobbies. Lets fight them!

November 23rd 2009

To,

Smt. Sadhana Dikshit,
Pr. Advisor (FA &IFA) & Appellate Authorit,
TRAI, Mahanagar Doorsanchar Bhawan,
Jawaharlal Nehru Marg,
Old Minto Road,
New Delhi-110 002.

Sub: Misleading, incoherent and incomplete reply received from PIO, Mr. P.K. Dutta vide letter No. 1(229)/2009-RTI dated 18th November 2009.

Respected Madam,

With reference to the above mentioned subject, the reply received from PIO Mr. P.K. Dutta is INCOMPLETE, INCOHERENT,ABSOLUTELY MISLEADING and NOT TO MY SATISFACTION AT ALL.

1) The definition of Broadband mentioned as per the letter is and I quote verbatim, “minimum speed of Broadband has been kept at 256 kpbs (sic) as per definition adopted by International Telecommunications Union(ITU).

After accessing the website of ITU, the picture is entirely different.
It says and I quote verbatim,” Recommendation I.113 of the ITU Standardization Sector defines broadband as a “transmission capacity that is faster than primary rate Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN) at 1.5 or 2.0 Megabits per second (Mbits)”.
(Accessed from http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/publications/birthofbroadband/faq. and accessed on 22nd November 2009).

Hence this information is INCORRECT AND MISLEADING a customer.

2)The question number “4, 5 and 6” in the letter to PIO dated 6th November have NOT been answered. I had specifically asked:

Does fair usage policy violate any of the provisions of TRAI?
If it does, what action can be taken against errant Service Provider?
Has any Internet Service Provider been ever penalised for violating for introducing “fair usage policy?

NO ANSWERS WERE GIVEN SPECIFICALLY TO THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS and it amounts to WITHOLDING THE INFORMATION.
Further, If the usage of the term “FAIR USAGE POLICY” is ‘illegal’. What action has TRAI taken to notify the various Internet Service Providers to avoid the usage of term and it’s implementation for ‘reducing the speeds’ to 50%’ of the availed plan. The following definition of Fair Usage Policy is taken from Airtel available as a pdf download from their website (www.airtel.in/applications/xm/Fair_Usage_Policy.pdf)

“Under the policy we have defined fair usage levels for unlimited data transfer plans and
needless to mention, the usage levels set are very generous such that most customers will not
be affected by the Fair Usage Policy. On reaching the fair usage level, the plan speed would be rationalized by up to 50% for the restof the monthly billing cycle.”
IS TRAI AWARE OF SUCH A POLICY? WHAT ACTION HAS TRAI TAKEN TO AVOID THE USAGE OF THIS TERM?

3)Question number 8 in letter dated 6th November 2009 was specific and has NOT been answered to MY SATISFACTION, namely,
Has TRAI suggested reducing the price for various plan combinations?If yes, what is the base price fixed for an unlimited Internet Connection by any Internet Service Provider? If no, is there any provision whereby TRAI can act on behalf of the customer to reduce the prices?

I need to know whether TRAI speaks on behalf of the customers, whether TRAI asks the service providers about the break up of the various tariff plans as to under what head the various tariff plans are designed and on what basis the end customer is charged for availing the services of the various Internet Service Providers.

4)Question number 9 has NOT been answered at all namely, “ How has the tariff on unlimited broadband ( unlimited) being offered by fixed line been calculated?”

Please rush the information to me by speed/registered post at the following address listed below. In case the requisite information is not provided to me by the mandatory period, I have the option to escalate the matter to the second appellate authority namely CIC, New Delhi.

 

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Calling all CITIZENS OF INDIA WHO ARE CHEATED/DEFRAUDED BY AIRTEL

Dear Bretheren,

Kindly view 15th April Indian Express and The Hindu (Both Chennai edition)

http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/customer-files-complaint-against-airtel/165478.html and

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/15/stories/2010041559660300.htm

While we applaud Mr.Infant Dinesh for his bold initiative, my heart goes out to the rural folks AND other lesser mortals who otherwise won’t have any clue to the “gullible” marketing techniques of Private operators like Airtel. The sections in which the cases are registered by the Chennai Suburban Police shows the seriousness of the case, as I whistle-blowed couple of weeks ago, after hearing the language against Airtel, posted in various online forums by all of you.

Can we do together and make Airtel kneel-down and pay-up? Shall we have people volunteering from each state to file a police case and others following up with their complaints based on the Infant Dinesh model? Concentrate on VAS related frauds, they are huge, we found after a research. It’s against the LAW, charging without customer’ consent. Hence the police are taking it seriously and are looking at more evidence.

To start with Kindly email your complaint against Airtel to infantdinesh at gmail dot com [email protected] or gatesandwindows at gmail dot com [email protected] with subject Airtel. Write in brief a) Your basic details-Account or phone no, b) Your complaint c)Response from Airtel d) Quantify the tangible losses e) What are the intangible losses – Like losing connection, time waste, mental torture etc.,, if possible quantify that as well.

People in Chennai please contact Mr.Infant Dinesh @ 98413 14812(Folks, he’s an advocate as well) or myself @ 98410 47174 RIGHT NOW. With you, together, we’ll be meeting the Police Commissioner next week as per plan for the next steps.

Please pass on this message to your near and dear as well so as they can share their experiences as well.

Look forward to everyone’s support.

Good day!

Warm Rgds
V.Ravichander

Calling all CITIZENS OF INDIA WHO ARE CHEATED/DEFRAUDED BY AIRTEL

Dear Bretheren,

Kindly view 15th April Indian Express and The Hindu (Both Chennai edition)

http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/customer-files-complaint-against-airtel/165478.html and

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/15/stories/2010041559660300.htm

While we applaud Mr.Infant Dinesh for his bold initiative, my heart goes out to the rural folks AND other lesser mortals who otherwise won’t have any clue to the “gullible” marketing techniques of Private operators like Airtel. The sections in which the cases are registered by the Chennai Suburban Police shows the seriousness of the case, as I whistle-blowed couple of weeks ago, after hearing the language against Airtel, posted in various online forums by all of you.

Can we do together and make Airtel kneel-down and pay-up? Shall we have people volunteering from each state to file a police case and others following up with their complaints based on the Infant Dinesh model? Concentrate on VAS related frauds, they are huge, we found after a research. It’s against the LAW, charging without customer’ consent. Hence the police are taking it seriously and are looking at more evidence.

To start with Kindly email your complaint against Airtel to infantdinesh at gmail dot com [email protected] or gatesandwindows at gmail dot com [email protected] with subject Airtel. Write in brief a) Your basic details-Account or phone no, b) Your complaint c)Response from Airtel d) Quantify the tangible losses e) What are the intangible losses – Like losing connection, time waste, mental torture etc.,, if possible quantify that as well.

People in Chennai please contact Mr.Infant Dinesh @ 98413 14812(Folks, he’s an advocate as well) or myself @ 98410 47174 RIGHT NOW. With you, together, we’ll be meeting the Police Commissioner next week as per plan for the next steps.

Please pass on this message to your near and dear as well so as they can share their experiences as well.

Look forward to everyone’s support.

Good day!

Warm Rgds
V.Ravichander

Whistle-blowing Airtel’s Humongous BILLING SCAM

Airtel has dumped useless goods on me(Have you ever heard of Anti-Virus Software, PC- Secure??), without my consent, either in written form or even a verbal consent - In my case, DUMPING PC Secure and Online Desktop Storage(ODS) and NEVER informing me of the same – be it a quick call or an email/snail mail or even a remote SMS, from atleast one of their numerous outsourced providers, some even in Timbaktu!

So is it not a fit case of Dumping Goods on Gullible Customers without their consent(Written or verbal, whatsoever!)
Pl refer to TRAI Notification 21st March 2006 Vide File 305-8/2004(QoS) Points 1.1,1.3(Page 4) ie. Information relating to Tariffs(Enclosed). Is this not a blatant violation with scant regard to the ‘Telecom watch-dog’ TRAI, fooling the Govt(s) and duping millions of customers??

Embedding Technique to Cheat(hide real information)- After 3 months,I have found out that they have charged for Online Desktop Storage(ODS) when I have NEVER activated or used. As you can observe in the Airtel Bill enclosed, amount for ODS is not in the first page and somewhere “embedded” inside the pages with 4-font, escaping the normal human eye. When questioned, their faceless and nameless officers say nothing can be done, when they are forced to sport the Airtel brand even in their intestines and kidneys! Sir(s), am not kidding. Kindly observe the front page of the bill. 40% space is occupied for brand promotion!!! Have you ever seen/heard of this? Hence the analogy.

All for WANT of GREED, in their quest to be numero uno. And with their "mindless outsourcing", "they have stripped themselves to their waist", with absolutely no coordination and Ms. Aruna of their Chennai Nodal Office confided verbally that she is unable to trace the roots as to how, why and who charged me for ODS. Maybe, some strange divine intervention, is it!!!
She says Human Error for charging for PC Secure, when the executive who installed the same was told to lie that it is free of cost! I was having Norton Antivirus and was happy with that. PC Secure didn’t remove even the common viruses. My system crashed and I incurred a huge data loss, thanks to Airtel!
From my experience and that of others (one can see for themselves- Typing Airtel+Fraud or Airtel+cheat in Google) as to the systematic swindling of gullible customers over the years!!!. A quick analysis of the content, language, tone and tenor, Jantha pouring in forums, their peer groups, blogs etc., running into hundreds of pages with tens of thousands of individual experiences with Airtel reveal their TRUE COLOURS. Most pertain to GREED-ie.”Dumping” AND “Cockroach Type Approach” to Customer service, "Sensuous Lip-service", at the start though.

Putting it simply, with a tinge of Sidhuism, “Little Drops and tiny droplets of Water make the Mighty Ocean, my friend”. Airtel, has been systematically swindling from millions of gullible customers like me - in amounts ranging from Rs.100-1000 or even more, month after month, since 1996!. It’s a humongous Billing scam – akin to Satyam Accounting Scam which needs to be investigated by TRAI or CBI or preferably the eminent panel which restructured the beleaguered Satyam Computer Services, now rechristened Mahindra Satyam. That’s the need of the hour.

Whistle-blowing Airtel’s Humongous BILLING SCAM

Airtel has dumped useless goods on me(Have you ever heard of Anti-Virus Software, PC- Secure??), without my consent, either in written form or even a verbal consent - In my case, DUMPING PC Secure and Online Desktop Storage(ODS) and NEVER informing me of the same – be it a quick call or an email/snail mail or even a remote SMS, from atleast one of their numerous outsourced providers, some even in Timbaktu!

So is it not a fit case of Dumping Goods on Gullible Customers without their consent(Written or verbal, whatsoever!)
Pl refer to TRAI Notification 21st March 2006 Vide File 305-8/2004(QoS) Points 1.1,1.3(Page 4) ie. Information relating to Tariffs(Enclosed). Is this not a blatant violation with scant regard to the ‘Telecom watch-dog’ TRAI, fooling the Govt(s) and duping millions of customers??

Embedding Technique to Cheat(hide real information)- After 3 months,I have found out that they have charged for Online Desktop Storage(ODS) when I have NEVER activated or used. As you can observe in the Airtel Bill enclosed, amount for ODS is not in the first page and somewhere “embedded” inside the pages with 4-font, escaping the normal human eye. When questioned, their faceless and nameless officers say nothing can be done, when they are forced to sport the Airtel brand even in their intestines and kidneys! Sir(s), am not kidding. Kindly observe the front page of the bill. 40% space is occupied for brand promotion!!! Have you ever seen/heard of this? Hence the analogy.

All for WANT of GREED, in their quest to be numero uno. And with their "mindless outsourcing", "they have stripped themselves to their waist", with absolutely no coordination and Ms. Aruna of their Chennai Nodal Office confided verbally that she is unable to trace the roots as to how, why and who charged me for ODS. Maybe, some strange divine intervention, is it!!!
She says Human Error for charging for PC Secure, when the executive who installed the same was told to lie that it is free of cost! I was having Norton Antivirus and was happy with that. PC Secure didn’t remove even the common viruses. My system crashed and I incurred a huge data loss, thanks to Airtel!
From my experience and that of others (one can see for themselves- Typing Airtel+Fraud or Airtel+cheat in Google) as to the systematic swindling of gullible customers over the years!!!. A quick analysis of the content, language, tone and tenor, Jantha pouring in forums, their peer groups, blogs etc., running into hundreds of pages with tens of thousands of individual experiences with Airtel reveal their TRUE COLOURS. Most pertain to GREED-ie.”Dumping” AND “Cockroach Type Approach” to Customer service, "Sensuous Lip-service", at the start though.

Putting it simply, with a tinge of Sidhuism, “Little Drops and tiny droplets of Water make the Mighty Ocean, my friend”. Airtel, has been systematically swindling from millions of gullible customers like me - in amounts ranging from Rs.100-1000 or even more, month after month, since 1996!. It’s a humongous Billing scam – akin to Satyam Accounting Scam which needs to be investigated by TRAI or CBI or preferably the eminent panel which restructured the beleaguered Satyam Computer Services, now rechristened Mahindra Satyam. That’s the need of the hour.

thanx bro,,,,,u r doing a great job for all of us,,,,,,,,,,,did they reply ?
corruption corruption corruption

thanx bro,,,,,u r doing a great job for all of us,,,,,,,,,,,did they reply ?
corruption corruption corruption

This is some serious work you're doing here for all of us. If there's ANYTHING that you think I can do, please tell me. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand in this process.

This is some serious work you're doing here for all of us. If there's ANYTHING that you think I can do, please tell me. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand in this process.

I truly applaud your efforts Abhishek! Let's hope that the morons at TRAI give a better reply, if not then well... we can always start a mass petition campaign at India Broadband Forum, and E Mail a letter to the President ;)

I truly applaud your efforts Abhishek! Let's hope that the morons at TRAI give a better reply, if not then well... we can always start a mass petition campaign at India Broadband Forum, and E Mail a letter to the President ;)

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