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		<title>Tata Photon Plus: Comments on Broadband Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am linking on to the quality of the services from Tata Photon Plus. It doesn&#8217;t look impressive. No one claims it to be as a &#8220;must have&#8221;. Related posts:Tata Photon Plus: Open Letter to Tata Executive This is in response to Tata Teleservices &#8220;executive&#8221; commenting on... Tata Photon Plus: Boo Boo Boo part II [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am linking on to the quality of the services from <a href="http://broadbandforum.in/tata-indicom-photon-plus/41635-tata-photon-2-4mbps-quality-service/">Tata Photon Plus</a>. It doesn&#8217;t look impressive. No one claims it to be as a &#8220;must have&#8221;. </p>


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		<title>Tata Photon Plus: Open Letter to Tata Executive</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is in response to Tata Teleservices &#8220;executive&#8221; commenting on my blog on the previous post. Dear Ms Sangeeta, Thanks for not &#8220;influencing&#8221; my thoughts. I understand that you work for the company that is part of the established oligopoly. I do accept your offer to show me a &#8220;demo&#8221; which in the real world [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/tata" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Tata">Tata</a> Teleservices &#8220;executive&#8221; commenting on my blog on the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/902-tata-photon-plus-boo-boo-boo-part-ii">previous post. </a></p>
<p>Dear Ms Sangeeta,</p>
<p>Thanks for not &#8220;influencing&#8221; my thoughts. </p>
<p>I understand that you work for the company that is part of the established oligopoly. I do accept your offer to show me a &#8220;demo&#8221; which in the real world conditions has no relevance per se. </p>
<p>A one time &#8220;burst&#8221; of speed or &#8220;lightening&#8221; fast downloads has no meaning unless your product throws up a consistent performance in real time. I should be aware of the customer service as well as the time taken for any complaint resolution. You should back it up with a responsive team to address the billing issues that may arise during the course of usage. </p>
<p>I find no indication that your Photon Plus would work on my Ubuntu Desktop since I don&#8217;t use <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/windows" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Windows">Windows</a> platform. Even if I have to get a demo, I have no clue whether it would work or not. Your company doesn&#8217;t bother to address the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/linux" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Linux">Linux</a> users and I couldn&#8217;t find any information about the drivers that might be needed to &#8220;dial&#8221; in your network. </p>
<p>The average user has experienced speeds ranging from 3-70 kbps which is slower than a dial up. While this may depend on &#8220;various factors&#8221;, I don&#8217;t have reason to contest this claim. Reason is that it&#8217;s easier for you to claim the &#8220;network conditions&#8221; and if any one is signing up for the contract, then he/she is at your mercy. </p>
<p>The pre sales is usually very strong with a huge amount of advertisements and tall claims. The after sales, usually, drops to zilch. Nada. There is a resounding and deafening silence. </p>
<p>Interestingly, you chose to leave a comment; you should have emailed me your concern. But then, on a public forum, your company becomes the object of ridicule.</p>
<p>Last but not the least. What is the meaning of &#8220;fair usage policy&#8221; for &#8220;unlimited downloads&#8221;. Where the F*** has it come from? What is the meaning of unlimited downloads? If your company is charging a customer for the same, it is at the customers discretion to use the way he/she deems fit. If you feel that your network is liable to be &#8220;abused&#8221;, why not stick on to metered net access alone? </p>
<p>It is the &#8220;considered&#8221; decision of almost all the ISP&#8217;s to stick on to &#8220;fair usage&#8221; policies which flies in the face of fair access. Tomorrow, you would be happy to police the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/internet" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Internet">Internet</a> to snoop on the websites a customer wishes, all in the name of state security! What gives you the moral right?</p>
<p>The <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/spectrum" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Spectrum">spectrum</a> is public property and you are just adding value to it. You don&#8217;t effectively own the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/spectrum" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Spectrum">spectrum</a> in the sense that till the time your licensce expires, you are most welcome to make profits resulting thereof. </p>
<p>You too are most welcome to your opinion, hence. </p>


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		<title>Tatas: Selling their soul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/idiots" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Idiots">idiots</a>! They had to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://broadbandblog.in/goto/sell_to_DoCoMo/830/1">sell to DoCoMo</a>, a leader in the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/3g" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with 3G">3G</a> services. With the policy as announced, the duds had it in them. They had to sell out to the highest bidder. Very soon, the whole landscape of the Indian telecom would change. We would not have homegrown company like <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/airtel" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Airtel">Airtel</a> but instead this would be a battle ground for the big global majors to fight it out for customers. </p>
<blockquote><p>The size of the deal is pegged at $1.5 billion (about Rs 6,700 crore), translating into a $6-billion (Rs 26,000 crore) valuation for the company that runs networks across the country and is planning to expand into <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/gsm" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with GSM">GSM</a> <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/mobile" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Mobile">mobile</a> services in the near future. <strong><a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/tata" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Tata">Tata</a> Teleservices is a loss-making company.</strong><em> Between 2005 and 2007, its cumulative losses stood at Rs 5,604 crore </em></p></blockquote>
<p>This <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/india" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with India">India</a> story has been done to death many a times. There is no real addition of the 8-9 million customers per month. It is simply not possible. Most of the metros have choked and jammed. It is saturated. In order to expand into tier B and tier C cities, telcos need funds and assured returns. For all practical purposes, I dont forsee the market &#8220;hot and happening&#8221;; although the 3G services would assure monetised returns and would ride on the <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/value-added-services" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Value Added Services">value added services</a>. </p>
<p>It is no secret that <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/tatas" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Tatas">Tatas</a> claim their superiority of services based on some abstract benchmarks. There are people who would swear to God not to ever think of <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/tatas" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Tatas">Tatas</a> as their service provider. Frankly, <a href="http://broadbandblog.in/tag/trai" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with TRAI">TRAI</a> has been unable to implement its own customer friendly norms; trying to get anything out of the useless idiots manning the customer service is a herculean task in itself. </p>
<p>Tata is a weathered story. They have lost it and the writing on the wall is as clear as the sunlight illuminating the dark dungeons of their minds. Telecom is a failed venture and they ought to accept defeat and ship out of business. </p>


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